welcome. let me bend your mind. lol

[banzaii.03]

If its come down to me starting off forums then its bad new... :eek:

anyhoo....if there actually is any philosophical peoples out there den lets be hearing from ya.

i dont really no what classes as philosophy...i mean....

is this philosophical :

There are so many arguments for the existence of god, but doesnt knowledge deny faith? so, if you need proof God exists, then you dont beleive in Him, because to beleive needs faith. So therefore he doesn't exist.

or is this philosophical:


why doesnt glue stick to the inside of the tube?

lol


put me straight people...and lets hear ya ideas, dreams, arguments and all....

Good luck y'all hear?

[SPARTAN VI]

There are so many arguments for the existence of god, but doesnt knowledge deny faith? so, if you need proof God exists, then you dont beleive in Him, because to beleive needs faith. So therefore he doesn't exist

We killed god like that years ago.I mean his vanished with a puff into a small room.LOL.

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Sory but it gets peoples atention. :D

[Aqua]

There are so many arguments for the existence of god, but doesnt knowledge deny faith? so, if you need proof God exists, then you dont beleive in Him, because to beleive needs faith. So therefore he doesn't exist

We killed god like that years ago.I mean his vanished with a puff into a small room.LOL.

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Sory but it gets peoples atention. :D
Yeah, you got my attention ;)

I don't really believe in God as a person, more like a 'something' out there...

[banzaii.03]

im glad to see someone else wants dis thread to have something in it...lol


I live with the philosphy that " the day after tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life". That way...you can always enjoy yourself before you start again....hehehe

[cHilli]

God is a feeling/poession that people have, it differs from person to person, for some its the supposed father of Christ and for others its money, what people want the most is their Religion, and God is why they do it. If you spend all day watching TV its your religion, whereas if you pray all day ditto.

In my opinion anyway;)

[Aqua]

God is a feeling/poession that people have, it differs from person to person, for some its the supposed father of Christ and for others its money, what people want the most is their Religion, and God is why they do it. If you spend all day watching TV its your religion, whereas if you pray all day ditto.

In my opinion anyway;)
Yeah, I think you got a good point there. I've heard so many ideas of others about God...

[banzaii.03]

hmm....maybe god doesn't need to exist...it is only the idea that you have to act in a certain way to be a better person....and the God figure is there to have a clear object to show your worship for?

works for buddhists anyway.

or...you could be really cynical and say...maybe God only exists because humans need something to explain the unexplainable...and so only exists because of our thirst for knowledge...and so it was us that created God...not the other way around.

* gets struck down by lightning bolt

@ matrix...yeah...but for you to have a religion...dont you actually have to worship the thing you are basing your religion about? like...i dont know anyone who worships TV....

where is the cut off point between hobby or interest or religion?

[Laguna Loire]

AaAaAahHhHh! i'M CoNfusED! So ConFUSEd thAT mY texT Is All WEIRd! Lol. I suck at this philosophical stuff. Here is the best I can come up with:

"People eat food to live."

Lol! And that's not even philosophical. Or is it? Perhaps it is in another dimension, or maybe it's philosophical to a secret clan of nerds living on Mars, or maybe...I think I've said enough for one day.

[Pixels]

Yes borgy, give your brain a rest, let the nerds handle it from here.... :P

ok, so... this god... I have so many points that he doesn't exist,


1) If there truely is a heaven and god, then why wouldh e let seomthing so evil ,a twisted as hell and satan. It doesn't fit..

2) Famine in the third world, Some say that it was to do with us, for instance Africa was our fault because of wars and so on , but, wouldn't god be able to do something more about it, if he credted the universe, surely he could make the water that they drink clean?

3) evolution, that says it all really

4) the big bang, hmm



and the glue thing, it has a seperate tubing you berk, with it does stick to

[cHilli]

Yeha it brings me back to my point, God is what you want God to be:)

There is no superior being, no Holy Trinity, no Heaven and no Hell, God is the piece of mind that helps people survive, feel good, and in some cases justify actions.

[Pixels]

well said.... i'm with chilli on this one :P

[Sister of Metal]

thats a point too...

I don't think god justifies actions, thats fully your choice, only there still is a concience fot that

[Pixels]

without something to belive in, we would just be worthless rag dolls living for nothing... like athiests ;)

[Sister of Metal]

m'eh, I don't think so.... you can live without believing in anything, only if you are happier living that way is the other question...

[BloodRunsCold]

Yeah, you got my attention ;)

I don't really believe in God as a person, more like a 'something' out there...

wat do u mean :confused:

[Sister of Metal]

well, that it ain't a human form, but something else. It's not the 'god' of the catholic beliefs, but something else..

[Aqua]

well, that it ain't a human form, but something else. It's not the 'god' of the catholic beliefs, but something else..
Well..I believe in the power of our minds and that everything has it's own opposite. I think we all have a little 'godly' power in ourselves...As I believe this world was created from our thoughts. So practically we as humans should be able to do anything...If we would only believe it ourselves :D

[Sister of Metal]

something I must learn to do some day, believe in myself, lol :D

but I would agree with that, mind power and the will of your own will are gifts itself

[banzaii.03]

noice....

i just bin thinking. Who here has the idea that all of your life is predetermined and that there is no such thing as choice over-all....cos your life is predestined.

I originally thought this was a stupid idea....cos you have freewill being able to make choices....but then....maybe the choices we make are already determined....meaning there is no such thing as freewill.....ooh...


brain.....hurts....lol

[<~Darkshadow~>]

that might be true....I've always thought about why are we here? What is our purpose? My life seems predetermined to suck....a lot...:(

[banzaii.03]

i hear people say dat we are here just to carry on da human race, but that cant be right....cos what else is there to carry it on for? but maybe its like a race...and the only thing you get out of it is da running....i dunno

really it sucks? dat bad dude...

[Drakur_Redragon]

Poets, mystics, scholars, and philosiphers have contemplated the meaning of life. They came up with an image of "god" to justify life as a necessity. Life's purpose is merely the soul's way of growing, of learning, and of evolving. The mind grows and the body dies, at least until the next life.

[Hylian Swordsman]

people who think of these kinds of things are likely to go mad! I could make myself crazy thinking about how we got here, and infinity! I've almost done it already! AAAAAAAAA!!! not... :D

[Drakur_Redragon]

It is often the musings of madmen that have the most profound impact on society in the future. That is why I freely admit to being insane, for the sane are merely those locked in their own delusional little realities, unwilling to see the world for what it truly is.

[Drakur_Redragon]

So now the question remains: Would you rather live in the ignorant bliss of sanity; or see the world for what it truly is, in all of its horror and evil, and be driven to the depths of insanity?

[Psych]

noice....

i just bin thinking. Who here has the idea that all of your life is predetermined and that there is no such thing as choice over-all....cos your life is predestined.

I originally thought this was a stupid idea....cos you have freewill being able to make choices....but then....maybe the choices we make are already determined....meaning there is no such thing as freewill.....ooh...


brain.....hurts....lol

i thought about that too
i also thought that life could be controlled by a higher power that makes us do whgat we do and that we think that we are independent but we really are being told what to do by something.......

[Killirbob.Exe]

There is no proof that god exist but there is no proof that he doesnt so no one will know but i think that god is wut you want It to be for all we know god could be a girl so lets say "it" but anyhoo god can be an emotion a living thing a energy "it" could really be anything but know one will ever know (that is untill they die)

[Skeleton Lord]

hh but is thesame with satin as well....

[Killirbob.Exe]

most likely satin is there if you want "It" to be there if you dont believe in "it" then "it" probably isnt there (the devil might be a girl to ... ya never know)

[Forsaken]

1) If there truely is a heaven and god, then why wouldh e let seomthing so evil ,a twisted as hell and satan. It doesn't fit..

well without an 'evil' there cannot be a 'good' correct? u can't have one without the other, if one goes so does the other they negate each other out, for every instance of 'good' an 'evil' is created to balance out, there are times when their seems to be overwhelmingly 'good in the world' or vice versa but this really can't be the case can it?


it's all their to comfort u and give u something to blame if u choose to be one of the people who like to be lead.

u can also follow the organised chaos theory which basic basic decribes the world and all that occurs as a learning experience for the spirit, because in pure spirit form 'you' cannot learn, so u come here as a 'being' so your spirit can learn and grow further, has anyone learned it all? is it really possible?

[Skeleton Lord]

most likely satin is there if you want "It" to be there if you dont believe in "it" then "it" probably isnt there (the devil might be a girl to ... ya never know)
I agree with what you say most people who go to church dont like the devil but they believe in him....

[mortal kombat master]

There are so many arguments for the existence of god, but doesnt knowledge deny faith? so, if you need proof God exists, then you dont beleive in Him, because to beleive needs faith. So therefore he doesn't exist

We killed god like that years ago.I mean his vanished with a puff into a small room.LOL.

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Sory but it gets peoples atention. :D

That is pretty good logic there, you could get some money out of that brain. write a book about that kind of stuff.

[Skeleton Lord]

ya that is true if you write a book id buy it....

[mortal kombat master]

ya that is true if you write a book id buy it....

yeah, and my mom loves those kinds of books too. I would give it to her for mothers day.

[banzaii.03]

actually...if ya meant the " faith denies existence " part...i originally posted it...and it WAS from a book...." The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams...go get that for ya mom on mothers day

[Skeleton Lord]

Ok I Will Lol

[Sister of Metal]

back to topic :P
who believes there are spirits?

[<~Darkshadow~>]

like evil spirits that haunt you?

I belive life itself is an evil spirit...lol....

[Skeleton Lord]

Yah If You Believe In Them Theyare There If You Dont They Arent It Is All In Your Imagination.....

[Sister of Metal]

sure, that helps, so your point was? :P

i believe in spirits...I had my own experience....>.<

[Orc Dude]

Maybe He Means If You Wantthem To Be There They Are And If You Dont They Arent

[Forsaken]

i believe some are unable to make it back and are trapped here, certainly, or, perhaps they never leave?

[Killirbob.Exe]

i am a spirit .... inhabiting this poor body pshh it is weak i need a new one...




Hu wut oh that was wierd....... okie dokie wut were we talking about oh yah ,.... i believe in spirits to