Books vs Films Debate

[Antownee]

Alright I am going for books..I think they beat movies by far...More room for detail..IMO Post your opinions :)

[inter]

hmm, it could go both ways. The movies always chop out parts of the book. The only good thing about movies is you only have to spend around 2 hours rather then countless hours on end reading. Though some people prefer to read. I personally aint a big reader.

[HRBEK]

I will go with films. Although they do cut out sections, they give us a clear image of the environments and the people (or other things). Films are easier to understand because you can actually see everything that is happening.

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HRBEK.

[inter]

yes, but if its a good book, which actually details most of the surrounding, you can imagine it.

[HRBEK]

Yes, but a book can never give the entire image, like a film does. No matter how hard the author tries.

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HRBEK.

[inter]

That's when u use your imagunation. U see the film will be the directers vision of whats goin on.

[HRBEK]

Your imagination can betray you, you know. Even the best of imaginations will never get the scenery perfect.

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HRBEK.

[inter]

Yes but only the author would know the true portrayal of the scenery. A film would be the director's portrayal. Mine and your could be different.

[Giiga]

imo movies, its more enjoyable to me then books.

[HRBEK]

Films often have the correct environment setups. They may also consult the author. No matter what, films display the environments better. Graphically that is. I do agree though that often films cut out good sections of the stories.

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HRBEK.

[inter]

Yeah, there are good and bad...

[HRBEK]

Maybe books and films are equal then.........

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HRBEK.

[inter]

nah u cant say that. They have diiferent for and against.

[HRBEK]

Yes but they balance out.

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HRBEK.

[Laguna Loire]

Movies - Simply because I'm a lazy sod and cannot be bothered to read...:P Used to read a lot, but now I only read comics and magazine game reviews...

[HRBEK]

There's a point. Movies are completable, lol. Sometimes you get about halfway through the book and stop reading. Reading is more time-consuming.

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HRBEK.

[inter]

I already sed that in my first post.

[HRBEK]

Either way it's a point for movies. I can't stand reading books. Only a select few.

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HRBEK.

[TK 421]

movies- i like action and books cant quite cut it there.movies have the blood and the special effects.sure you could use your imagination but can i be stuffed? NO!

[HRBEK]

Like I said books just can't give you the environment and the atmosphere. Intensity is important for a good story and no matter how talented the author, the movie will always win in that regard.

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HRBEK.

[Antownee]

Your imagination can betray you, you know. Even the best of imaginations will never get the scenery perfect.

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HRBEK.

But the author tries to explain sketchily so you can portray your own iimage,once again books are better ;)

[[N]eto]

Like I said books just can't give you the environment and the atmosphere. Intensity is important for a good story and no matter how talented the author, the movie will always win in that regard.

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HRBEK.

Sorry, but I must disagree with you. Unless the author of said book also became the director of said movie, the director's portrayal of the enviroment can differ from the author's as well as ours, as Inter stated. Yes, it is nice to have an actual visual of the enviroment a book is trying to portray since it saves us from having to imagine it, but it can and will vary from person to person as to how it does look.

Personally, I really don't read much. When I do, I definitely enjoy them. Movies just aid to visualize things better.

[Giiga]

eto']Sorry, but I must disagree with you. Unless the author of said book also became the director of said movie, the director's portrayal of the enviroment can differ from the author's as well as ours, as Inter stated. Yes, it is nice to have an actual visual of the enviroment a book is trying to portray since it saves us from having to imagine it, but it can and will vary from person to person as to how it does look.

Personally, I really don't read much. When I do, I definitely enjoy them. Movies just aid to visualize things better.

So, your saying books are for people who can visualize what their reading.

[[N]eto]

So, your saying books are for people who can visualize what their reading.

Not necessarily.

[inter]

eto']Sorry, but I must disagree with you. Unless the author of said book also became the director of said movie, the director's portrayal of the enviroment can differ from the author's as well as ours, as Inter stated. Yes, it is nice to have an actual visual of the enviroment a book is trying to portray since it saves us from having to imagine it, but it can and will vary from person to person as to how it does look.

Personally, I really don't read much. When I do, I definitely enjoy them. Movies just aid to visualize things better.

Yeah, I am 100% with you there Neto.

[HRBEK]

Authors are consulted, though I will give it to you that they are not consulted all the time. The best movies are set up with scenes that match the ones in the books and with any additional features that may improve those scenes. I have never seen a movie portray and environment from a novel badly. I think that maybe we should just agree to disagree. There is no way for such a debate to won.

I say that we live in a world of different opinions and different people. All opinions are valid, as an opinion is what you think or make of something. No matter if someone says that your opinion is wrong, you should stand by it. In the case of films VS novels, that is a clash of the titans, there are arguments to support each of them. Films are more intense, books help develop a vivid imagination. Either way, no one will ever agree. This will always be an open discussion.

So how about it? Should we or should we not agree to disagree?

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HRBEK.

[Pixels]

eto']Sorry, but I must disagree with you. Unless the author of said book also became the director of said movie, the director's portrayal of the enviroment can differ from the author's as well as ours, as Inter stated. Yes, it is nice to have an actual visual of the enviroment a book is trying to portray since it saves us from having to imagine it, but it can and will vary from person to person as to how it does look.

Personally, I really don't read much. When I do, I definitely enjoy them. Movies just aid to visualize things better.

Agreed.

I like both, For example, Saving Private Ryan, i watched the film first of all, just to get a general gist of the enviroment and atmosphere of the story. Then I read the book, as I wanted to let my mind go free on what I wanted to make the story like, making my own surroundings, and visualizing the faces fo the people. I have to say, especially with films like Saving Private Ryan, Blach Hawk Down, Or We Were Soldiers, I get so pi55ed off with people who go to watch the film, and then come back laughing at the ways of which the people died, They are true stories, men actually died in horrific ways many years ago to save you sorry little asses...

I have to vote books...

[HRBEK]

This is a debate with no conclusion. I think we all know that. This whole argument comes down to our individual opinions. Everyone has different thoughts, so like I proposed earlier, let's just agree to disagree.

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HRBEK.

[Pixels]

But that takes away the point of a debate :D

[HRBEK]

A debate with no true answer is a senseless one I believe.

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HRBEK.

[Invader_gir]

but the meaning is there =)

anyway, it all depends for me, mostly on my mood and if i can be bothered to go and choose a dvd over others or if i should go and read a book that ive thought about reading already. i find it easier to understand books half the time, which is saying a bit since i seem to always know whats going on in movies.. either that or i just think what i think is going on or whatever. i was reading a book called 'i choose to live' and the author explained everything perfectly imo, i could see all the papers all over the floor in the secret room lined with boxes and the other box/case thing etc; however, i told my friend to hire the same book from the libary and she couldnt understand or visulize anything to do with the surroundings explained in the book; what she thought was always romoved and placed with a door to the secret room that she thought was a tidy room with a desk and a end table near a door with the box/case, explained differently later on to what she thought. so yes, you are right, everyone must have different opinions and such for books depending on what they are used to in reality
when i went to primary school i always pictured schools as that one, but now i see them sort of like college.. so its hard to define....

movies are fun, and they help with comedies because you can have someone trip over, bounce on their head then their sock gets latched onto a twig, the person stands up and the twig gives him a splinter that makes him yelp in pain, however, as it was written there, it looses something... it takes, what.. about 10-20 seconds to read that, where it could just take 5-10 seconds for it to be shown on film.. however, some people might find it funnier reading it then seeing it. another matter to do with books being time consuming, maybe? =D

comics are different.. like a mix, just without the moving and audio.. instead you imagine what happens from panel to panel and have to read what the speech buble has in it while taking in whats happening in the panels picture to make the writing actually make the slightest of sence. to some, comics are harder to read because they are reading it like a book and not a picture-book/comic. thus it doesnt describe anything thats going on apart from the cleché 'later that day', or whatever. they have no idea, and half the time have no idea whose actually saying what.

so yeah.. basicly, it all depends on how you read, how you imagine settings, if you understand things well or not, or if you can take in pictures and words at the same time =)

[HRBEK]

There is no answer. It is a matter of opinion and we all have different opinions.

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HRBEK.

[inter]

yea, thats why its a debate. Nice post Invader.

[Invader_gir]

yea, thats why its a debate. Nice post Invader.
thank you =)
rather proud of it myself =P

anyway, if you dont like reading, what are you doing on a forum?

[The Latias Master]

I like movies and books. I like books too, especially when the new harry potter one comes out

[HRBEK]

It's like running around a tree again and again. You end up back where you started. By the way that was a good and wise post Invader_gir!!!

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HRBEK.

[The Latias Master]

but the meaning is there =)

anyway, it all depends for me, mostly on my mood and if i can be bothered to go and choose a dvd over others or if i should go and read a book that ive thought about reading already. i find it easier to understand books half the time, which is saying a bit since i seem to always know whats going on in movies.. either that or i just think what i think is going on or whatever. i was reading a book called 'i choose to live' and the author explained everything perfectly imo, i could see all the papers all over the floor in the secret room lined with boxes and the other box/case thing etc; however, i told my friend to hire the same book from the libary and she couldnt understand or visulize anything to do with the surroundings explained in the book; what she thought was always romoved and placed with a door to the secret room that she thought was a tidy room with a desk and a end table near a door with the box/case, explained differently later on to what she thought. so yes, you are right, everyone must have different opinions and such for books depending on what they are used to in reality
when i went to primary school i always pictured schools as that one, but now i see them sort of like college.. so its hard to define....

movies are fun, and they help with comedies because you can have someone trip over, bounce on their head then their sock gets latched onto a twig, the person stands up and the twig gives him a splinter that makes him yelp in pain, however, as it was written there, it looses something... it takes, what.. about 10-20 seconds to read that, where it could just take 5-10 seconds for it to be shown on film.. however, some people might find it funnier reading it then seeing it. another matter to do with books being time consuming, maybe? =D

comics are different.. like a mix, just without the moving and audio.. instead you imagine what happens from panel to panel and have to read what the speech buble has in it while taking in whats happening in the panels picture to make the writing actually make the slightest of sence. to some, comics are harder to read because they are reading it like a book and not a picture-book/comic. thus it doesnt describe anything thats going on apart from the cleché 'later that day', or whatever. they have no idea, and half the time have no idea whose actually saying what.

so yeah.. basicly, it all depends on how you read, how you imagine settings, if you understand things well or not, or if you can take in pictures and words at the same time =)

Very detailed

[HRBEK]

Really Invader_gir, that post suggests that you and I share more or less the same opinion.

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HRBEK.

[Invader_gir]

Really Invader_gir, that post suggests that you and I share more or less the same opinion.

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HRBEK.
well i didnt see you going off on a speech =P
lol
anyway, yeah.. i guess so, i was just stating what i thought

[HRBEK]

Well it is good to see that you know your stuff.

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HRBEK.

[inter]

it was a pretty big thought though XP

[Invader_gir]

yes, well i seem to be thinking more than usual, just like PX

[inter]

haha yea, brain in hyper mode, lol XP

[HRBEK]

That's what is required for the Philosophy Precinct inter, lol.

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HRBEK.

[Laguna Loire]

I'd read the posts in this thread, but...Meh. :P

Bottom Line - I'm a lazy b@stard. Films rule, books do not.

[inter]

lol, ur so diplomatic LS

[HRBEK]

Hey someone likes films more, like I do. About time, lol.

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HRBEK.

[[N]eto]

Hey someone likes films more, like I do. About time, lol.

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HRBEK.

In any case you hadn't noticed, a couple of people here like films more.

[HRBEK]

Oh, I must be blind. You prefer books don't you?

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HRBEK.

[[N]eto]

...

As I said, I don't read much (aside the internet, certain books, and articles). Obviously I rather theatre.

[HRBEK]

Good to know that we share one belief, lol.

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HRBEK.

[Invader_gir]

i would prefure to watch a movie over a book, just sometimes books can explain what movies cant

[HRBEK]

The book gives a fuller description of events but not environments.

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HRBEK.