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STEELIX
07-29-2005, 05:41 PM
I know someone just did a thread on underrated pokemon but there are many pokemon that are overrated

i think in blue version moltres is overrated i caught it and the second it was thrown into battle it died it is better in the new version but in the old versions it was very overrated

Vipershark
07-29-2005, 06:46 PM
I say groudon. Kyogre is much cooler. And Rayquaza. I mean, he's cool, but people REALLY overrate him.

STEELIX
07-29-2005, 07:03 PM
no groudon is my strongest pokemon i dont think he`s overrated but hey thats your oppinion

HRBEK
07-29-2005, 10:14 PM
Rayquaza isn't overrated, it is powerful. Mew is overrated, as it isn't actually as strong as people say it is.

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HRBEK.

[N]eto
07-29-2005, 10:27 PM
Do you people know the meaning of underrated and overrated Pokémon? No, I didn't think so.

Overrated Pokémon are those used in battle my almost any user (Dragonite, Salamence, etc.). Underrated Pokémon, however, are those thought out as weak and rarely used in battle.

Groudon isn't necessarily overrated, since most people seem to prefer using Kyogre. Rayquaza has a great fanbase (almost anyone who loves Dragons loves this legend), but it is not as widely used as Mewtwo was back in the day.

Moltres has honestly never been overrated, just like Ho-Oh, because of its double Rock-type weakness. However, Ho-Oh has a much greater varierty in moves, and its stats may somewhat make it an overrated Pokémon.

HRBEK
07-29-2005, 10:37 PM
Lol, I think we know [N]eto. Overrated relates to something that is given too much credit and is not as good as it seems. Underrated is the opposite.

Thanks,
HRBEK.

[N]eto
07-29-2005, 10:40 PM
Then I must disagree with you and say that Mew is more than what we give it credit for.

HRBEK
07-29-2005, 10:45 PM
Mew doesn't have the power. It is okay as a watchman, but otherwise I see know reason to use it. Kyogre, Groudon and many others are capable of bringing Mew down. I look for Pok'emon with high attack stats. Attack and Special Attack are what pull me through. Ursaring, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Mewtwo, Slaking, etc. I'm not saying that Mew is bad, I am simply saying that it is given too much credit.

Thanks,
HRBEK.

[N]eto
07-29-2005, 11:13 PM
Mew (Jolly, + Speed/ - Spcl. Atk.) @ Lum Berry
EVs: 252 HP, 126 ATK, 126 SPD, 6 DEF
Ancient Power/Body Slam/Mega Kick
Cosmic Power (hacked, or possibly obtainable through XD)/Bulk-Up
Seismic Toss
Softboiled/Rest

Yeah, there are other Pokémon that have better stats than Mew, but with the right item, the right nature, the right EV distribution, and the right set of moves, it can destroy them just as well. This is a copycat Defense Deoxys Mew, except its Attack stat can still be used.

HRBEK
07-29-2005, 11:37 PM
For Mew, an item rarely matters. Mew is one of many that must rely on its strength. When facing an opponent with a similar item, it will be just as weak. Usually everyone gives items to their Pok'emon. Mew tends to have Brightpowder. Still, Heracross manages to defeat it with a single hit (my Haracross anyway). People will have mixed opinions about this issue.

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HRBEK.

[N]eto
07-29-2005, 11:51 PM
Heracross would be a different story, obviously then you'd have a different Mew. Mewtwo, too, can become a victim to Heracross, just as much as Heracross can become a victim to Mewtwo.

HRBEK
07-30-2005, 12:04 AM
Mewtwo would take Heracross to pieces. Unless of course it didn't have Psychic.

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HRBEK.

deoxys
07-30-2005, 01:24 PM
i must agree mew has achieved perhaps more attention than any other pokemon soits not underated inthe least, also talking of stats mews stats are decent, true by a neutral nature not one of his stats bar HP @404 is about 300" but they are all uniform.

i reckon overated would have to be charizard, im sorry i know its got a fan base but why? its crap lol

HRBEK
07-30-2005, 04:12 PM
Mew is too easily dealt with. Maybe Australian battles are so hard that they are easy. As we continue to build new strategies, they become weaker against those strategies that we have forgotten. It's a cycle.

Thanks,
HRBEK.

[N]eto
07-30-2005, 06:24 PM
i must agree mew has achieved perhaps more attention than any other pokemon soits not underated inthe least, also talking of stats mews stats are decent, true by a neutral nature not one of his stats bar HP @404 is about 300" but they are all uniform.

i reckon overated would have to be charizard, im sorry i know its got a fan base but why? its crap lol

Charizard is overrated, just like Blaziken.

HRBEK
07-31-2005, 07:55 AM
Now that I agree with.

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HRBEK.

zodiac4eva
08-01-2005, 08:44 PM
charizard is overated
i have a lv 55 charizard in leaf green and evry1 tinks it gr8 but its rubbish.
it reely anoyin.

zodiac4eva :-)

MewMaster
08-05-2005, 01:21 AM
i love mew

HRBEK
08-05-2005, 11:57 AM
Mew is overrated though.

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HRBEK.

deoxys
08-05-2005, 03:17 PM
is it? i wouldn't say mew is overated myself, to be honest it is a pokemon of vast ability and TM usage, i think it adequately deserves is reputation.

MewMaster
08-05-2005, 04:06 PM
Mew is overrated though.

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HRBEK.

it may be ( im not saying it is or isnt ) but the important thing is that i like mew, not the majority of people:)

Vipershark
08-05-2005, 05:19 PM
deoxys is waaay overrated.

deoxys
08-05-2005, 05:31 PM
deoxys isn't over-rated, its an awesome pokemon "FR/LG versions anyway"

emerald is a bit crap and ruby/sapphire is crap too lol

Vipershark
08-05-2005, 08:10 PM
trust me, deoxys IS over rated.

Rayquaza kinda is.

So are the latis. A little bit.

deoxys
08-05-2005, 08:46 PM
deoxys can't be over-rated because its deserving of its praise, with attack version you have a pokemon with the two highest attacks in the game, with defense you have a pokemon with two of the highest defenses inthe game.

the versitiliy that deoxys enjoys assures it is in no way underesrving of its many many fans.

HRBEK
08-05-2005, 10:30 PM
Deoxys is not overrated, but Mew is. I have always found Mew to be a little bit weak.

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HRBEK.

deoxys
08-06-2005, 12:53 AM
mew has its places, its a bit of a jack of all master of none.

But it has enough variety in its movesets to adjust itself to a variety of different roles, for myself i can't stand mew, never have lol, it looks like some sick dying lab animal

STEELIX
08-06-2005, 01:43 AM
i agree with vipershark deoxys is overrated

i have it its pretty weak

[N]eto
08-06-2005, 02:48 AM
mew has its places, its a bit of a jack of all master of none.

But it has enough variety in its movesets to adjust itself to a variety of different roles, for myself i can't stand mew, never have lol, it looks like some sick dying lab animal

Gasp.

Oh man, you disappoint me. I love Mew.
You better not be speaking smack about Ho-Oh either. The only thing that disappoints me about this Pokémon is its type combination. Game Freak, those mofos!

Oh, and Mew is not overrated. Neither is Jirachi or Celebi. They're rarely seen, they just have a somewhat large fan-base.

Vipershark
08-06-2005, 03:29 AM
Jirachi and Celebi are underrated. Especially celebi.

Raflius the Hegehog
08-06-2005, 04:38 PM
Marill is Overrated. i know its a very good pkmn but its overrated, but i have to admit, Azumarill looks STUPID

Vipershark
08-06-2005, 07:21 PM
Groudon Is overrated.

[N]eto
08-06-2005, 10:14 PM
Groudon Is overrated.

How so?

Groudon is rarely used because of Kyogre.

HRBEK
08-07-2005, 04:03 AM
I always use Groudon.

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HRBEK.

deoxys
08-07-2005, 02:12 PM
i didn't think we were talking about pokemon which are common place or often used, this thread is for over-rated, that is to say pokemon which despite their grand reputation fail to live up to it.

another candidate in my eyes is salamence, a brilliant pokemon but its flawed by its quad weakness to ice.

[N]eto
08-07-2005, 07:35 PM
In my opinion, Groudon is most easily defeated when facing Kyogre, especially if its Rain Dance kicks in instead of Groudon's Sunny Day.

deoxys
08-07-2005, 10:29 PM
i can't stand groudon, with kyogre everything helps it, its ability, its moveset, its stat composition.

with groudon ur left thinking ok, well i need to have a beneficial attack nature because with that groudons EQ will seriously kick butt, however that leaves me with a neutral SP attack, and with groudons ability and weakness i find myself wanting to put solar beam and eruption , thats two moves with groudons crap speacial attack stat.

with kyogre his ability really helps him use strong moves, like thunder, now i know this is standard and doesn't really cover any of his weakness's, but thunder 100% accuracte via kyogre's 438 sp attack is decent in anyones book, along with learnign ice beam, god knows what else.

i can't help but think groudon was the ugly duckling, im sure it has fans and im sure those same fans will come and whop my ass, but i think groudon is crap with a capital crap.

Vipershark
08-08-2005, 04:20 AM
i can't help but think groudon was the ugly duckling, im sure it has fans and im sure those same fans will come and whop my ass, but i think groudon is crap with a capital crap.

I couldn't agree more.

PKMN freak
08-08-2005, 11:22 PM
Groudon isn't overated. well, i have to admit, Azumarril looks like CRUD

deoxys
08-09-2005, 11:15 AM
azumarill does look crap, but its a decent pokemon, not too many people take advantage of its huge power ability, which like medicham makes it one of the hardest hitting pokemon in the game, alot of people waste it by giving it water type moves.



go for an adamant one.

[N]eto
08-09-2005, 05:21 PM
I shall always remember Defense Curl and Rollout back in the day...

PKMN freak
08-09-2005, 06:39 PM
No need to mention Shiftry..... seriously, he looks like Regice except with leaves for the hands and one VERY big head. They should'nt have made Nuzleaf's evolved form..

STEELIX
08-09-2005, 07:58 PM
i think groudon rules kyogre is better then it when they face eachother but against the elite four groudon kicks some serious but

PKMN freak
08-10-2005, 06:19 PM
I think Rayquaza can knock them BOTH out.

deoxys
08-10-2005, 06:23 PM
the chances of rayquaza knocking them out is remote, kyogre would survive long enough to ice beam rayquaza, and thats 400% effective, even my porygon 2 with ice beam can flaw my rayquaza, granted that it has only a neutral nature, max IV, Max EV sp-defence, but still its near impossible to guard against a 4 times weakness.

PKMN freak
08-10-2005, 06:30 PM
that's true but Rayquaza has Dragonbreath, which I think is a super-powerful attack.

deoxys
08-10-2005, 06:35 PM
only against other dragons, against water "kyogre" it is only standard effectivness.

thats another good thing about kyogre all its weakness are speacial in nature " and he happens to have a brilliant SP-Def"

where as groudons weakness's are also special in origin he lacks the speacial defence of kyogre, instead he has a boosted defence, which is good but pretty much useless for anb all ground pokemon. If it was ground rock i would say yes! by all means, you have ground, fighting etc to be concearned with " on the physical front"

PKMN freak
08-11-2005, 05:03 PM
What about Outrage, it can stomp almost any pokemon it attacks. Not to mention he will get confused...

deoxys
08-11-2005, 05:29 PM
its all relative, outrage is a dragon based attack with a power of 90 if i remember, it attacks 2-"5?" or is it 2-3? anyway, yes ur right it confuses the user after use, i don't like outrage because i do alot of doubles battles and in a doubles battle you cannot designate which pokemon outrage will hit first, much like thrash, also i don't like a pokemon to be trapped into using that move, for example rollout, if somone uses rollout you can just change into a ground, steel etc, and then ur opponent has to wait until rollout finishes, he can't even switch

anyway as i was saying, dragon attacks are only super effective against dragon, so everything else will be receiving normal or even nominal damage.


i like simple 1 turn moves, when it comes to offensive moves.