View Full Version : Crying Virgin Mary? Hoax or True?!


Soba
11-27-2005, 08:51 PM
While signing onto AIM, I saw the photograph below and the words 'Believers Flock to 'Crying' Virgin Mary'.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/soba/20051126203109990002.jpg
I became very interested, since not too long ago (actually, it was a few years) there was a show on little miracles (there was a bust of Jesus crying red tears.)

I'm not really sure what to think. Half of me says that its true, another says that some random bored person triggered something.

Read (or just skim through) and tell me what you think.

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Nov. 26) - Carrying rosary beads and cameras, the faithful have been coming in a steady stream to a church on the outskirts of Sacramento for a glimpse of what some are calling a miracle: A statue of the Virgin Mary they say has begun crying a substance that looks like blood.

It was first noticed more than a week ago, when a priest at the Vietnamese Catholic Martyrs Church spotted a stain on the statue's face and wiped it away. Before Mass on Nov. 20, people again noticed a reddish substance near the eyes of the white concrete statue outside the small church, said Ky Truong, 56, a parishioner.

Since then, Truong said he has been at the church day and night, so emotional he can't even work. He believes the tears are a sign.

"There's a big event in the future - earthquake, flood, a disease," Truong said. "We're very sad."

On Saturday, tables in front of the fenced-in statue were jammed with potted plants, bouquets of roses and candles. Some people prayed silently, while others sang hymns and hugged their children. An elderly woman in a wheelchair wept near the front of the crowd.

A red trail could be seen from the side of the statue's left eye to about halfway down the robe of concrete.

"I think that it's incredible. It's a miracle. Why is she doing it? Is it something bothering her?" asked Maria Vasquez, 35, who drove with her parents and three children from Stockton, about 50 miles south of Sacramento.

Thousands of such incidents are reported around the world each year, though many turn out to be hoaxes or natural phenomena.

The Diocese of Sacramento has so far not commented on the statue, and the two priests affiliated with the church did not return a telephone message Saturday.

The Rev. James Murphy, deacon of the diocese's mother church, the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, said church leaders are always skeptical at first.

"For people individually seeing things through the eyes of faith, something like this can be meaningful. As for whether it is supernatural or a miracle, normally these incidences are not. Miracles are possible, of course," Murphy said. "The bishop is just waiting and seeing what happens. They will be moving very slowly."

But seeing the statue in person left no doubt for Martin Operario, 60, who drove about 100 miles from Hayward. He took photos to show to family and friends.

"I don't know how to express what I'm feeling," Operario said. "Since religion is the mother of believing, then I believe."

Nuns Anna Bui and Rosa Hoang, members of the Salesian Sisters of San Francisco, also made the trek Saturday. Whether the weeping statue is declared a miracle or not, they said, it is already doing good by awakening people to the faith and reminding them to pray.

"It's a call for us to change ourselves, to love one another," Hoang said.

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HRBEK
12-04-2005, 12:24 PM
A definate hoax, I believe.

Thanks,
HRBEK.

STEELIX
12-04-2005, 07:56 PM
this reminds me of when chemicals in a hospital were accidently poured on a window and made a picture of marys face
oh and the grilled cheeze sandwich that was sold on ebay cause the burn mark had a face of jesus in it

DeFJaM
12-05-2005, 09:32 PM
i heard about that one, how much did that go for on ebay?

Jack
12-05-2005, 09:57 PM
Well, Judging by the fact that people go crazy over those little things, prolly $1000 +.

Anyways. Bavck on topic.

HOAX

Nova
12-05-2005, 11:24 PM
no i think it true. she is trying to tell us that something bad is gonna happen and she is sad cause all of her children are in war with each other.

Sister of Metal
12-06-2005, 03:44 PM
but why then the 'mother mary' and not jesus or any other saint?

Nova
12-06-2005, 07:42 PM
mary is the mother of all the people on earth

Soba
12-07-2005, 11:07 AM
I was kind of wondering why the other Saints weren't 'crying' too.

There's already been a news thingy on the Jesus bust, but that was a long time ago.

Invader_gir
12-08-2005, 11:31 AM
what happened with the jesus bust?

Some1
12-08-2005, 07:02 PM
i heard about that one, how much did that go for on ebay?
more then 30,000$

Soba
12-08-2005, 08:09 PM
what happened with the jesus bust?

Same thing with the Mary statue. It had red streaks going down it's face, and the eyes had turned a different color (I think red from the tears).

*shrugs* They said they did a catscan and all that other high tech stuff and found nothing unusual.

But I saw it on TV. So...m'eh...

Sister of Metal
12-13-2005, 09:41 AM
sooo...either that are some kids with red waterpaint and a bad case of rebelliance....orr..there is something else to it...

MORSN417
12-15-2005, 11:27 PM
this reminds me of when chemicals in a hospital were accidently poured on a window and made a picture of marys face
oh and the grilled cheeze sandwich that was sold on ebay cause the burn mark had a face of jesus in it


i saw something simaliar to that

there was this guy selling a piece of chees "w/jesuses face on it"
personally i couldnt see it and thought the guy was crazy
it sold for over $1300
pretty good for a piece of cheese

HRBEK
12-20-2005, 12:53 PM
I agree with Sister of Metal (assuming you believe that this was the act of a group of idiots). This was most likely a hoax, whereby some dumb-punks have either used red paint or blood to make it seem like she is crying. Those people must have had nothing better to do I guess....... Dumb-punks!

It could also have been done by highlt religious people to convince more people about the existance of God.

Thanks,
HRBEK.

MORSN417
12-20-2005, 08:44 PM
Hoax!!

HRBEK
12-21-2005, 12:07 AM
And you think it's a hoax because...........?

Thanks,
HRBEK.

Nova
12-21-2005, 12:07 AM
Hoax!!

i seriously doubt it

HRBEK
12-21-2005, 12:48 AM
Well, we are all entitled to our own beliefs.......

Thanks,
HRBEK.

MORSN417
12-22-2005, 08:32 PM
caause it was one of the choices and I made a choice :P

HRBEK
12-23-2005, 09:06 AM
And the justification for you answer is............?

Thanks,
HRBEK.

Dead Or Alive
12-23-2005, 10:46 AM
Mary appeared in France and Ireland didn't she? So why would this be a hoax. When she appared at Lourdes and Knock I don't think it was a hoax

Sister of Metal
12-23-2005, 07:00 PM
you have no special reason you just don't believe..
little hint for you dear, if you want to survive in the real world you better have your arguments ready for what you think or you're gonna get screwed around

MORSN417
12-23-2005, 09:48 PM
ok,ok......just an opinoin
i dont believe in alot of religois stuff

HRBEK
12-25-2005, 08:44 AM
You can stick with saying that it was a bunch of Rogue Priests, lol.

Thanks,
HRBEK.

uncheat
12-31-2005, 12:20 PM
The crying virgin staue is a hoax. The secret is revealed at http://cryingstatue.www300.com
I bought the plan. It is a chemical compound.

Uncheat

MORSN417
12-31-2005, 04:12 PM
The crying virgin staue is a hoax. The secret is revealed at http://cryingstatue.www300.com
I bought the plan. It is a chemical compound.

Uncheat


ahhhhh..........PROOF!!!

Element Lord
01-06-2006, 01:50 AM
hmm...in my opinion, this may have been a hoax, based on that page about the plans. But that doesn't mean this sort of thing doesn't happen. It's been seen all over the world, in places like grilled cheeses and water damage under freeways. It's becoming more and more common. In my opinion this could be a sign of something serious. not neccesarily bad, but big. Think about this, what was mary's role in the bible? The mother of jesus. and did jesus not promise to return one day? This could very well be a sign of the return of the savior. who knows...

oh and just so you guys know, the crying mary statue was ripped off of a movie that was made a few years ago. in the beginning of the film a man is called to a middle eastern country to investigate a statue of mary that seems to be bleeding from the eyes, or crying tears if you will. But much more heavily than the statue we're talking about now.

uncheat
01-13-2006, 05:48 PM
This chemical can make the whole statue sweat or blast in tears. The nice thing is that it is invisible and can be incorporated into the plaster or wax or anything from which the statue is made of. Depending on how much you add, the tear effect can last up to a month.
Sorry I can't disclose the secret. I paid much for it.

Element Lord
01-13-2006, 08:55 PM
ok...