Will the PS3 fail?

[cHilli]

EDIT - TYPO IN POLL, SHOULD BE 'PS3' not 'PS2'

Simple question, I think unless the game situation improves it will be close to a failure. The unexpected price drop is desperation tactics. Anyone who wants a FUN console goes for Wii and whoever wants a GAMING console goes for XBox 360, lets face it the games are much much better. There's no point in better hardware if you dont have the games. It's a reversal of the 'PS2 v XBox' battle.

[Nitrous]

I own an Xbox360 and PS3 mate and I voted YES only because of the current lack of games, the high price tag and the fact that its going to be playing catch up for the next few years in terms of sales...

[Papelbon]

I voted ''Yes'' because the PS3 has a HUGE lack of games, and thats why im not buying it, and like chilli said, the price drop is because there desperate, nobody is buying their console.

[Some1]

Yes. I agree with Papelbon. They do have a large lack of games, they released the system with a terrible price, a bunch of useless features and at the wrong time. The price drop is a sign of desperation and its going to take a few years for the PS3 to catch up.

[STEELIX]

ps3 is too expensive
so no

[Dreaming Demise]

Well not including the Wii(Because it's S&$!)

If you compare both of the consoles, Xbox 360 has a way better online gaming community to the Ps3. They both can run the same amount of hard drive space I believe(Not really sure) but the Ps3 has Blue Ray over the 360 which makes for better movies and games. Both the consoles have wireless support, no problems there.

Xbox 360 currently has something like six times the amount of games to what the Ps3 has. Take Two are going to make some big $$ from both Sony and Microsoft when GTA IV is released seeing as it will be on both consoles. Also I'm not really sure about how the graphics between the two compare because I have not seen this, but the Xbox 360 is pretty damn good in my opinion but I'm guessing the Ps3 is just as good.

Another good point towards Xbox 360 is that I like the Xbox Live marketplace where you can go spend your heard earned gamerpoints on things like demo's, game trailers, downloadalble content etc. Not sure if the Ps3 has this.

Well thats my little rant over lol. Please add to this if you wish. :D

[DayleJ]

i noticed the other day the price tag on the PS3 has dropped by a fair amount! People are just not gonna pay its price tag especially with the lack of good games for it, i think they had so much potential and Sony has just ****ed up big stylee

[Cid Highwind]

PS3 is failing atm because of the high price and the lack of good games.

If Sony isn't completely moronic, they know they should make a Final Fantasy VII Remake on the PS3, and even if it's gonna turn out to be the greatest game of all times or if it's gonna suck horribly, it doesn't matter, people will buy a PS3 for a Final Fantasy VII Remake, can't be denied (Hell, I would)

[cHilli]

PS3 is failing atm because of the high price and the lack of good games.

If Sony isn't completely moronic, they know they should make a Final Fantasy VII Remake on the PS3, and even if it's gonna turn out to be the greatest game of all times or if it's gonna suck horribly, it doesn't matter, people will buy a PS3 for a Final Fantasy VII Remake, can't be denied (Hell, I would)
Lets just hope it isnt a FFVII 2 like the sh!t that was made for the Ps2 with Vincente as the main character

[Cid Highwind]

Yeah that wasn't too great.

But no, if they just remade the FF VII game, kept the whole story and character development intact, just change the graphics, menu, battles, music, stuff like that to next-gen PS3, then it would be an amazing game

[cHilli]

It'd be great, believe it or not I haven't played VII, and if it was on the PS3 it would sway me to buy it.

I think the general consensous is that people want the PS3 to be the best once again, but it's lack of games is preventing it, its killing itself

[Cid Highwind]

Yeah, it's quite sad, especially since the PS2 was probably the best among the older consoles

[Dreaming Demise]

The Ps3 has some good hardware though, my mate was telling me that if you were able to put the parts of a Ps3 into a PC, you'd have your self a $2000 worth computer.

[Forsaken]

thats nonsense, id like to see some proof of this

this whole blue ray nonsense is overrated and overpriced

look how long it has taken DVD to assimilate into our culture, and we still havent killed of VHS!

Blue Ray has a long time to go

[Dreaming Demise]

Yeah your totally right about that man, right now isn't it more HD technology coming into play rather then blue-ray?

[Cid Highwind]

Yes, there is still quite a big struggle between Bluray and HD DVD technology, some DVD's only come out on Bluray and others only come out on HD DVD, one will probably win over the other over the years, but i'm not gonna bother buying let's say a bluray player of 800 bucks and then finding out the HD DVD player won over the Bluray.

[Vipershark]

The Ps3 is a big flop like the PSP. Everyone thought it would be the best, but there was something better. In the PS3's case, this is both the Wii and Xbox. Just like the PSP though, it has a tiny game library and not many good games. Plus, it's at least $100 more that the current leader.

[Cid Highwind]

Actually the PSP is quite good in my book, I mean you can listen to mp3's on it and watch videos on it as well, supports a lot of formats.

The games on it are really cool too, my friend has one and whenever he comes over, he checks out some games I have on my Xbox 360 while I play on his PSP, games like Tekken, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, Burnout is always fun for a hand held, fast action pased games are usually great on a psp. You can do network battles against other people.

[Some1]

Crisis Core is out!? Oh man. That shows how caught in final fantasy I have been. =/

[Cid Highwind]

Well yes and no, in Japan it is, and my friend live(d)(s) in Japan and brought the game with him, so he's playing it in Japanese. I play it when I get the chance, my japanese isn't flawless like his, but I can understand most stuff, it's an amazing awesome game, I might just get a PSP just for that game.

[Vipershark]

Actually the PSP is quite good in my book, I mean you can listen to mp3's on it and watch videos on it as well, supports a lot of formats.
I can do that on my DS with a flash cart. It's not right out of the box like on the PSP, but for $20 more, you can play mp3's and movies like me.


The games on it are really cool too, my friend has one and whenever he comes over, he checks out some games I have on my Xbox 360 while I play on his PSP, games like Tekken, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, Burnout is always fun for a hand held, fast action pased games are usually great on a psp. You can do network battles against other people.

There are some good games, such as LocoRoco, Lumines, and the stuff you said, but the game library is MUCH smaller than the DS and the amount of good games is as well.

[~Felly~]

First, I would like to sway off topic for just a minute or two. The DS is more so a system for the younger children, and it doesn't have any games rated over T [If there are any DS games rated T at all.], but the PSP is rated towards teenagers and adults with T and M rated games and some E/E 10+ games. With that out of the way, I would like to continue on to the main topic.

As said earlier in posts before mine, the PS3 is way too expensive. So what? You can buy a 20GB version for $449.99 in the US. Wow. The Xbox 360's Platinum version was around that price when it came out, yes? And if people can go out and buy a $499.99 Xbox 360 Platinum, then they can d*mn well buy a 20GB PS3 for the same price. Wow! It doesn't have as many games as the Wii or Xbox 360. Eventually, PS3 only games such as Soul Caliber 4, GTA [Well, it's not a PS3 only, but it's a good game...], and Final Fantasy [Which isn't a PS3 only game as well, but still.. It's a good game.] will come out and more and more people will go out and buy the PS3 for those games.

That's about all I shall rant about now, but I will rant about it some more later..

[Forsaken]

u forgot to mention Heavenly Sword :P

I'm still not fussed at all on either the 360 or the PS3 and im not interested in a Wii at all

I still dont believe game developers are really unlocking the full potential of these games, they're still too linear and simple, graphics, yeah sure they're ok but im just not convinced

I like the look of the PSP, i was very close to buying one the other day :S

[~Felly~]

I can go over to my friend's house to play the 360, so I'm not going to fuss about that. No one I know though, would buy a Wii or PS3, so I'd have to buy one of those with my own money.. But I like the graphics on all of the next gen consoles.. I just think the PS3 has the best.

u forgot to mention Heavenly Sword :P

I know, but I was naming games off the top of my head. xP I knew there was a game that had sword in it though..

[Dreaming Demise]

I'd just like to add, Xbox 360 got f&$%ed over with Two Words, enough said.

[Cid Highwind]

As said earlier in posts before mine, the PS3 is way too expensive. So what? You can buy a 20GB version for $449.99 in the US. Wow. The Xbox 360's Platinum version was around that price when it came out, yes? And if people can go out and buy a $499.99 Xbox 360 Platinum, then they can d*mn well buy a 20GB PS3 for the same price.

The Xbox 360 Platinum was never 499 dollars, the highest price ever was 399, and now it's between 300-350.

As for the fact that you can buy a 20GB PS3 version, maybe you can, but Europe always gets screwed over by Sony, we don't even have that option.

[Nitrous]

Can I just point out that its NOT a 20GB version its a 40GB... I don't make these thread for the good of my health you know :P http://www.cheatingdome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27311

Edit: Cid just pointed out to me that there is indeed a 20GB version in the USA... I'll crawl back under my rock now

[Some1]

First, I would like to sway off topic for just a minute or two. The DS is more so a system for the younger children, and it doesn't have any games rated over T [If there are any DS games rated T at all.], but the PSP is rated towards teenagers and adults with T and M rated games and some E/E 10+ games. With that out of the way, I would like to continue on to the main topic.

Wrong. Resident Evil Remake for DS is Rated "M". :P

[Nova]

PS3 is a flop because people just dont use Blu-Ray. If it came out in 5 years I would buy it as blu-ray might be more used then. But now all it is, is a cheap blu-ray player. Most of its games are coming out for the 360 like GTA IV...that is if they dont pull it off PS3 like the rumor stated. I would only get a PS3 for Kingdom Hearts but there will be one for the DS which will satisfy me enuff and save me $400-600

[Cid Highwind]

I agree, but then again, you can't compare Kingdom Hearts on the Nintendo DS to Kingdom Hearts on a Playstation, that's just wrong. I played that Chain of Memories that came out for Nintendo and it was awful.

[Some1]

^ It was. I wasted my money on that piece of crap.

Anyways, theres one coming out for the DS?

[Nova]

I agree, but then again, you can't compare Kingdom Hearts on the Nintendo DS to Kingdom Hearts on a Playstation, that's just wrong. I played that Chain of Memories that came out for Nintendo and it was awful.

Actually Many found chain of memories to be a nice spin-off but using cards. The nintendo DS is not using cards and is standard battling like the console counter-part but a different story. Its name right now is Kingdom Hearts 358/2 but that is def. gonna change. Plus is Square is smart they must be noticing the horrible sales of the PS3 and might be thinking about branching out KH 3 to 360 and/or hopefully Wii. But we will have to wait and see

[Flamefist95]

i say it will fail because it came out to expensive and by the time they bring the price down nobody would want it anymore

[Cid Highwind]

That doesn't make sense.
It came out too expensive, true, they will feel losses for that in terms of profit.

By the time the price is down many more people will buy it though, Sony screws up a lot, sure, but their products are pure quality, my trusty PS2 is still working after what? 8 years? never had anything wrong with it, unlike my 360, Gamecube and such.

If the price gets cut down a lot, I will buy it for sure, and many people would agree with me, why not, it's still a killer system with killer games coming out.

[Deadpool]

The way I see it, the PS3 is already so far behind, they are not going to catch up. Think about it. Nintendo has sold nearly 10 million consoles in one year, if they keep that going for a couple more years with some sweet games and upgrades, that is 30 million consoles. The PS3 doesn't suck or anything, but they did too much with it. They put features in there that people don't want and cost too much. Their biggest downfall was the attempt to introduce people to bluray. I look at the shelves and they are collecting dust. The Sony station in Wal-Mart is always full, the Wii can't stay on the shelf, and the 360 is just so much better. And whoever that was saying the Wii is ****, you are an idiot.

[Flamefist95]

That doesn't make sense.
It came out too expensive, true, they will feel losses for that in terms of profit.

By the time the price is down many more people will buy it though, Sony screws up a lot, sure, but their products are pure quality, my trusty PS2 is still working after what? 8 years? never had anything wrong with it, unlike my 360, Gamecube and such.

If the price gets cut down a lot, I will buy it for sure, and many people would agree with me, why not, it's still a killer system with killer games coming out.

I know more people will want to buy it then but Im saying a lot of people will also just forget about it and think about the nxet-gen systems that will be comeing after the PS3, 360 and the Wii.

[Nova]

That doesn't make sense.
It came out too expensive, true, they will feel losses for that in terms of profit.

By the time the price is down many more people will buy it though, Sony screws up a lot, sure, but their products are pure quality, my trusty PS2 is still working after what? 8 years? never had anything wrong with it, unlike my 360, Gamecube and such.

If the price gets cut down a lot, I will buy it for sure, and many people would agree with me, why not, it's still a killer system with killer games coming out.

Thats a very good point. But still, Many developers still do not like making games for it. In the effort it takes to make 1 PS3 game, they can make a couple Wii games. Plus most of PS3's killer apps, are being put on the 360 as well like Grand theft Auto IV. We have to face facts here, if Sony doesn't get at least 10-15 million consoles sold by this time next year, Nintendo and MS will be too, too far ahead.

[Flamefist95]

it takes longer to make PS3 games but why do you think the graphics are so much better? and probably not likely to hapen with the PS3, there are still coming out with games for the PS2 that people are buying and are just as fun as PS3 games

[Nova]

it takes longer to make PS3 games but why do you think the graphics are so much better? and probably not likely to hapen with the PS3, there are still coming out with games for the PS2 that people are buying and are just as fun as PS3 games

But who gives a crap about graphics if the game is a piece of crap? And the PS2 is all that is giving Sony money which is the only reason why they are still feeding it games. They need the money to make more PS3's

[Cid Highwind]

PS2 is the only thing giving Sony money? haha, i'm sorry but that's a stupid thought.

in gaming there is also the PSP, advanced piece of equipment right there, I bought one myself, it's well worth the money, can do so many things and it looks so amazing, leave that to Sony. I'm not even mentioning the other categories Sony gets money from, how about, uhm, just a thought? TV's?

And even though a PS3 is really expensive, have you seen the chaos it brought when it was first released? People even killing each other over obtaining one, there were these contests running on the web where if you smashed your Xbox 360 you would get a PS3 (quite odd and stupid, but they were there), nothing wreaks more havoc then a new Playstation Console. PS2 still brings in crazy amounts of money for Sony, games are still being made for it, it's cheaper now, so people who aren't crazed about Consoles are even buying them.

Haha, you kids are acting like Sony is going to die or something, don't be stupid, think smart, competition is good for us, the customers, it will make things way more affordable and games are better, if there was only one console then it would be horrible for us.

[Nova]

Sony is not gonna die cuz i'm buying a TV from them. Ya a PSP is an advanced piece of equipment but it is not even close to the DS. And yes the PS2 is the only thing giving their "Gaming Headquarters,office, w'e you wanna call it" money.

[Cid Highwind]

Ya a PSP is an advanced piece of equipment but it is not even close to the DS.

You see, I like all consoles, it really opens a lot for us customers, I respect all of them. But this just sounds more like childish hate towards Sony, trying to contradict stuff, instead of making good arguments as to why. It's like saying "mine is better because I bought it and that is all the reason I need", I checked your profile and it seems you do not own a PSP yourself.

I own a DS and PSP, I like the dual screen with a touch screen option of the DS although it's incredible tiny, it's a really nice feature, but the Nintendo DS is nowhere as advanced in technology and options as a PSP, I really don't know how you can think that, the Nintendo DS is made for pure entertainment, the PSP is for entertainment and a lot more, my friend bought it because he is a programmer, and with a PSP he can do magic stuff now so to speak haha, since it's sort of a mini-laptop.

[Nova]

If you buy a flash cart like I do, yuo can put pictures,movies, songs, homebrew on yuor ds. I personally dont hate Sony. I played my PS2 until a few weeks ago it started to refuse to read my disks. But there is no point in this arguement becuz we still have 4-5 yrs left in this console race. We can still be surprised

[Cid Highwind]

Ok, so you can view pictures, watch movies and listen to music on the DS? Is this not possible on the PSP? How does this make it more advanced than a PSP?

Arguments are the only interesting stuff on C/D lately, so if someone claims a PSP is "not even close to the DS" I can ask for more information on it, can't I.

What people don't understand, mostly young ones, no offense to you ofcourse, I don't know what your age is, but i'm talking about the C/D people in general, is that they think when i'm trying to further test people in arguing, they see it as some sort of fight, that I'm trying to make them look bad or something? I don't know, which ofcourse isn't true.

I'm glad you at least explained further.

[Nova]

Ok, so you can view pictures, watch movies and listen to music on the DS? Is this not possible on the PSP? How does this make it more advanced than a PSP?

Arguments are the only interesting stuff on C/D lately, so if someone claims a PSP is "not even close to the DS" I can ask for more information on it, can't I.

What people don't understand, mostly young ones, no offense to you ofcourse, I don't know what your age is, but i'm talking about the C/D people in general, is that they think when i'm trying to further test people in arguing, they see it as some sort of fight, that I'm trying to make them look bad or something? I don't know, which ofcourse isn't true.

I'm glad you at least explained further.
I never said or meant to say it was more advanced than the PSP I just said it can be made to be up to par with it.

[Ruda]

Ps3 is really short of games. No doubt it is a better console than Xbox and Wii but Xbox and Wii have more games than Ps3 that's why i voted for "YES". :P

[mcdogit]

ps3 owns the sh@t out of xbox 360.

ps3 has a way better online gaming community plus a better system(can you surf the internet on xbox 360)with the ps3s amazing graphics and just right amount of motion sensory and great games plus all the raw power it has it would easily sh@t kick the 360 (I own a 360 and it is collecting dust in its boredome cuz it sucks and i don't play it even though i have halo 3, assassins creed, and bioshock):eek:

[mcdogit]

Actually the PSP is quite good in my book, I mean you can listen to mp3's on it and watch videos on it as well, supports a lot of formats.

The games on it are really cool too, my friend has one and whenever he comes over, he checks out some games I have on my Xbox 360 while I play on his PSP, games like Tekken, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, Burnout is always fun for a hand held, fast action pased games are usually great on a psp. You can do network battles against other people.

psp is incredible for its size.
it has the besr hand held graphics in historyand a JOYSTICK i thought i'd have to wait 5 more years for that

ps:try pursuit force;)

[mcdogit]

PS3 is a flop because people just dont use Blu-Ray. If it came out in 5 years I would buy it as blu-ray might be more used then. But now all it is, is a cheap blu-ray player. Most of its games are coming out for the 360 like GTA IV...that is if they dont pull it off PS3 like the rumor stated. I would only get a PS3 for Kingdom Hearts but there will be one for the DS which will satisfy me enuff and save me $400-600

in 5 years it wouldn't sell better cause ps3 introduced blue ray