fox's speed or gannondorf's strengh?

[GohanX]

I perfer fox's speed any day!!!

[RVD_2002]

gannondork is 1 of the best players in the game he has a variety of attacks and can blow u away compared 2 fox..................fox is nothin yes he maybe fast and has a gun wow but i dnt like him stupid fox! gannondorf would kick his ass ne day!!!

[CenturionZ_1]

Have you seen how fast Gannondorf's Wizard Foot is?

[koen]

i like ganondorf more

[GohanX]

well look at the results of the poll fox's speed is perfered over ganondorf's strengh!!!!!

[CenturionZ_1]

Oh, come on... 3v2...WOW...

[GohanX]

at first it was 3 vs o

[Boom A]

How Bout 4 VS 2 Ganondorf one of the best players as Fox he"s Mediorce

[koen]

i forgot to vote,now ganondorf have 4 points and fox 3 :)

[GohanX]

man koen don't tell you became a ganondorf fan

[-Gold-]

ok y are you guys fighting over what is the better charicter? Well n e way i have been wondering if i should by a gq or not. it is a hard dissition.

[CenturionZ_1]

Gohanx, you sad cuz Fox is losing?

[koen]

im not a gannondorf fan but somehow i like him more then fox.
im better with falco then with fox somehow,and i like falco much more then gannondorf!

[GohanX]

my name is gohanx3

[CenturionZ_1]

Falco is a bit slower and more powerful.

[-Gold-]

I love falcon. I dont really know y.

[-Gold-]

if n e 1 cares i just voted and brought up fox. he is better i think. can some 1 like a admin change the g in gold to a capital G. please.

[Boom A]

yeah falcon one of my favourites especially he b button charge punch

[GohanX]

yeah thats ture

[-Gold-]

but i like fox 2 cause he is like falkon alittle, he is fast, and pretty strong and falcon is fast and strong, but it is kinda hard to get use to gandorf after being facon and fox so long if you know what i mean.

[GohanX]

i'M WHIT you

[-Gold-]

does n e 1 think that they could tell me what spam is cause i dont no if i do it or not if i dont know what it means. you and me all the way gohanx3. you have to ask me or boom or gotenks if you want to be in dbz elite force. i think that you would pass the test.

[GohanX]

cool. ask me anything about dbz

[-Gold-]

ok but could you do me a favor and tell me waht spam is then i will arange it for you.

[-Gold-]

o and also could some 1 tell me how to get the blue and other colled writting for my signiture?

[Boom A]

spam is when u post useless posts
eg saufhdaushfauid
ahahahaahahaha
oh
yeah
r some examples

[CenturionZ_1]

Gold, your signature pic is too big.

[-Gold-]

i dont think it is too big cause a adminaster told me to change it and i did and now it is 30 times smaller. Thanks boom. he hasent said n e thing about it yet, but if he does then i will change it.

[y3nis]

If you play fox versus ganondorf fox should win! You can't hit anyone if you are too slow. You won't see the wizzard kick coming from close distance. But from a longer distance Ganondorfs -->B and down B are too slow. So what else could you do with ganondorf???

[GohanX]

I don't mean to brag(wait yes I do)but I just won a huge battle whit only ganondorf last.of course I was fox!!and the ganondorf were all on level 9!!!!!

[CenturionZ_1]

I don't want to brag but beating up computer Ganondorf is a little easy. I can beat up 3 Fox on level 9 with Ganondorf too. I'm good with him. I can't with Fox. He's too weak and easy to hit flying.

[Boom A]

yeah same ere fox is so crap he just fast anyone can beat fox lv 9 i cant believe gohanx likes the poll should b3 9-1 instead of 5-5 all

[CenturionZ_1]

Fox just does too little damage. Sure you might escape a few hits but you get hit once and you'll go flying. He's like Jigglypuff and Pichu, weak but fast and very easy to KO. (Look at Event 39, you can throw Jigglypuff off the stadium).

[y3nis]

How intellegent do you expect computers are? I can do the same. Beat up 3 foxes with ganondorf, but I can't beat 3 ganondorf with fox. Just keep doing your wizzard foot and you'll be victorius. When playing against my friends I can't win with ganondorf when my friend is fox. And when I am Fox I can beat my friend when he is fox or ganondorf.

[CenturionZ_1]

It all depends on how good you are with the character! A novice Fox player will get trashed by a good Ganon player and vice versa. It's like Marth v Roy but we agreed that Roy is better.

[y3nis]

Yeah Roy is better then marth. But what about when an expert ganondorf player is playing against an expert fox (I like Falco more)???

[CenturionZ_1]

Ganondorf definately. I mean if it was Falco, maybe closer as Falco does more damage.

Here's the problem. Fox may be quick but every one of his moves all seem to do around 1%-5% whilst Ganondorf's moves all seem to do 10%+. Basically Ganondorf lands one move, Fox goes flying. A good Ganondorf will then land combos and Wizard Foot away any rush in and attacks. Also, Fox's reflector doesn't work in midair. So if Ganondorf gets him flying, Fox should be dead.

[GohanX]

his defelecter does work in mid air.it stops working when he hits the ground.

[CenturionZ_1]

Yeah. If he jumps he can use it.

If he is sent flying he can't.

And if he does use his deflector, it'll makes him hover. Perfect time to judge an attack and send him flying again. You see his deflector is like Jigglypuff's rest not Roy's counter. It's attacking not defensive so it won't stop Ganondorf hitting him. Fox has to literally get right up to Ganondorf and reflector. Ganondorf doesn't exactly have projectiles to reflect now does he?

What can fox do, his moves won't budge Ganondorf yet he will be knocked all over the place.

[GohanX]

is this what you guys have been doing.......anyone who knows anything about ssbm knows that if you get hit over and over again you will go flying.but if your only hit once do you expect someone to go flying if there smaller than the other character?of course not!

[y3nis]

CenturionZ_1--->weet ik veel he zuigt, is een eikel gore kut lul.;) haha da snap je lekker toch nie! I just gave you some compliments in dutch. Do you realy expect ganondorf will hit Fox al the time. Can't you read or something? Was it your mother who read the teksts for you? He stupid don't you know what consideration is? I just sait in an earlier post that the fox player must be an expert too. With his quick moves do you realy think Ganondorf wouldn't be hit by him. Fox should hit ganondorf all the time and. It doesn't matter how much damage your attacks does when you can't hit anyone!

[CenturionZ_1]

y3nis: You are so obviously a little kid who hasn't played SSBM before. Yeah right Fox is going avoid every attack. Fox's moves have no effect on Ganondorf except to maybe add a little damage. You have to get him above 50% to see any flying going about. Also, Fox's only powerful moves (his Firefox and Smashes) take so long to charge and hit it's a bit like Ganondorf's move. So what if he can land 10 2% punches on Ganondorf.

Ganon rolls or jumps of shield and then uses Down+B Wizard Foot. How can he shield? Because many of Fox's moves are strings of moves. He will roll away after a few hits. Even Fox will have trouble dodging that because he has to stop his combo kicks and do something defensive. Warlock Dive WILL sned him soaring upwards. It might be close but seriously, how can Fox win? Ganondorf is very quick with Wizard Foot, he can run and chase Fox. Name one move Fox could KO Ganondorf around 50% damage. Exactly. He's going to need a lot of punches.

Oh ever heard of edge guarding y3nis? No probably haven't. Ganon has a lot of powerful charging moves. Perfect for edge guarding.

[y3nis]

You'd better use a meteor attack instead of edge guarding with ganondorf. Alright. Fox sucks, I knew that. But my favorite is Falco. And ganondorf might be good. But Falco is better.And FOx is his even. Fox will do much more damage. And you are right that he hasn't good moves for edge guarding. You can smash ganondorf of the level when he has 120%. And with ganondorf Fox only needs 60 or 70% and a smash. Mostly fox will attack but ganondorfs attacks are stronger. I find wizzard kick not as good as you find it. When playing against my friends, they can hit only one of 4 wizzard kicks. I mostly roll doge them or I'll jump.

[Boom A]

Still Ganondorf Is Better Than Fox And Falco

[CenturionZ_1]

Yeah, but can anyone see why Nintendo always say Mario is the best because he's so balanced. He's rubbish because he is balanced. He hasn't got a big strength to work with.

[GohanX]

THERES ONLY ONE THAT I USE FOX AND THAT REASON IS BEACUSE
I HAVE FAST REFLEXES!I DO USE OTHER CHARACTERS FROM TIME TO TIME BUT I DON'T USE THEM VERY OFTEN BECAUSE THEY DON'T REACT AS FAST I WON'T THEM TO.SO THATS THE WHOLE MYSTERY
BEHIND ME USING FOX!

[koen]

falco is better then fox

[CenturionZ_1]

But Falco hits harder and is just like Fox. Try using him.

[-Gold-]

I think that falcon is 1 of the better charicters cause he is fast, almost as fast as fox, and he is stronger. so that is y i love to use falcon. but i got to admit that some times for me gandorf is beter then fox and vis versa.

[Boom A]

yeah falcon good
my favs are cpt falcon ganondorf dk link and roy

[CenturionZ_1]

But Falcon's so terribly annoying. Going 'Falcon Kick/Puch' everytime he does a special move.

[GohanX]

and he's kinda of hard to control.

[koen]

he rulezzz

[CenturionZ_1]

Ganondorf is better. Slower, but easier to control and hits harder.

[y3nis]

Ja vind ik ook.

[koen]

geen nederlands ito

[y3nis]

Nee, wat doe jij dan itohoofd, vuile Bart Klootzak. Couse I know Koen is your nickname, your real name is Bart-Klootzak.

[koen]

my real name is koen you fool:angryfire

[jim_tbone]

gamecube is a load off ****e:angryfire

[CenturionZ_1]

Go away, or get yourself banned.

[GohanX]

I see we have some pest still saying gamecube is crap.

[CenturionZ_1]

I thought this argument was over.

[y3nis]

Ganondorf is better. jep fox sucks

[GohanX]

I say we all go over to the disscussion forum and make a poll to see which is better or we can tell neo to tell them to leave us alone or get banned.

[YamiYugi102683]

i can destroy gannondorf with fox and his speed

[CenturionZ_1]

But Fox is just too weak. Falco can beat Ganon. His Deflector will send him skywards. Fox just sends him sideways.

[y3nis]

Yep Falco is the best

[GohanX]

I'm starting to use falco more.

[YamiYugi102683]

i stillsay fox can beat gannondorf no problem

[koen]

i dont think so,only falco caan do that:sungl:

[JoshMan]

2 close 2 call

[peepcil]

I would prefere fox's speed over gannondrf's strenght any day

[Nick Hyral]

Gannondorf is what they call an anti air, and anti speed character. Managing him right against fox can make a match quick. Counter speed with wizard foot, or if you've played against your opponent enough you can easily time when he is going to use a specific move and let your elbo smash fly and instant K.O. In Air combat, if You send Gannondorf in the air, he can come back with a down A and do massive damage throwing you in the air and leaving you wide open for a K.O. from him.

[y3nis]

muhahaha, r u guys stupid or what? Haven't you seen the movies with show that fox his reflector is better then falco's? Fox 'is zwaar de man' if you can control him. Now be n00bisch and keep practis the moves of ganon allthough he can be good too, but most player prefer fox because they CAN handle him!!!
:lmao:
:deadhead:

[Nick Hyral]

Do you realize you just called yourself a noob then? You said it yourself. Gannondorf is not for the rookie player. His lack of speed needs precise timing to pull them off. He can afford mistakes, but the mistakes he can afford are far more than foxes. If fox runs into Gannondorf's attacks, then its game over fast. You can pk anyone in 3 hits with Gannondorf. But only those who work with him can pull such a fast match off.

[[N]eto]

Fox for me. If used correctly, his speed and reflection moves can go to it's best and there is no one that can beat you.

[y3nis]

Originally posted by Nick_Hyral
Do you realize you just called yourself a noob then? You said it yourself. Gannondorf is not for the rookie player. His lack of speed needs precise timing to pull them off. He can afford mistakes, but the mistakes he can afford are far more than foxes. If fox runs into Gannondorf's attacks, then its game over fast. You can pk anyone in 3 hits with Gannondorf. But only those who work with him can pull such a fast match off.

Yes i do realize that and thats what i am when playing with fox, I AM A FOX NOOB! But i aint a noob with other chars like link/falco/dr mario. Ganondorf is also a good char but fox is just the better man! You haven't seen the movies did you? Watch them first before judging fox again.

[Nick Hyral]

I've used Ganondorf and Peach. Ganondorf is above all, my favorite. If they make a second melee and its over the net. We will test this battle!

[Emew]

Are you guys crazy? Ganondorf may be powerfull and all, but you can't hit fox if he's used properly.
:banana2: <<A picture of me.

[Nick Hyral]

Once again. This is an opiniated thread. Everyone, no matter who you are, can take a character and use them until you are good with them. As I said. Fox's speed is a blessing and a curse. His speed can lead him right into an attack, and if he is knocked straight off a cliff it will lead him to his doom with his bag of rocks routine as he drops quickly.

[Emew]

Sorry! I didnt' meanany offense.:cry:

[Nick Hyral]

You offended no one so don't apologize. Just please, while you do post. Don't make short posts meant only to gather post count. Please make sure you explain your reasonings thoroughly. Your opinions are valued here so post away.

[BLOCKA]

ganondorfs strength will kick butt anyday:rlauncher

[koen]

noobs noobs noobs noobs noobs, fox is allmost the best charecter there is with his dirty reflector trick,he got second on a gaint mellee tournament!!!!!!!!
and mario got thirth and marth 1th

[koen]

ow yes and all EXPERT gannondorf players got knocked out on the fist rounds,even by my yoshi

[Nick Hyral]

OMFG Shut up with your noob talk. Gannondorf can take anyone just as fox can. Its the player, not the character. If your smart you would shut up and accept that you are good as who you use. Your a true noob at not accepting what others are good at.

[[N]eto]

[Closed]

I wont even bother explaining why.