Creation VS Evolution

[Forte.Exe]

In noahs ark: If you believe every single creature on earth existed at the same time, then the food chain would be ****ed. If the ark was real, it would have to be as big as alaska, maybe even north america! You must be bull****ing if your telling me 9 nomads with no engineering intelligence built a ''wooden death star''. There aren't enough trees on the continent to do that, and besides, it's only 9 people. It would take hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years to build such an anomaly by just 9 people! In the time it takes to build the thing, errosion would take place and it would break. It is unlikely that you could make such a craft and not have over a million leaks is the side. They didn't have the tech to travel to the other continents to get those animals. They didn't have the tech to catch them, or even know how many there were. There would surely be evidence of such a craft.


Ok, about noahs ark, if the ark was any where near the size of the mountian(which it must be) It would crack in two or tip over. Think of trying to land an elephant on a sturdy stone pencil. The ark would be destroyed, along with a small percentage of the animals. The ark would be way too heavy to float, it would sink like a rock. All the things inside would eventually run out of air even if the ark was sealed completely.

Enough of the ark for now... Lets talk about how just 2 people can populate the Earth. If this happened, then this would induce imbreeding, which is prohibited by god. Imbreeding creates genetic deformities as well. And one more thing for now... Kane and Able were Adam and Eves sons. God tells Kane he would put a sighn on Kanes hand or whatever to tell other people in the world not to hurt him. What other people? Adam and Eve are supposed to be the only humans! This is a major contradiction.
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well heres another one of my crazy stories, which i didnt make just copied and paste it.

Are you a Creationist or Evolutionist?

i myself am a Creationist.

ok Adam and Eve suppose to be the first humans ever, thrown out of the perfect place due to disobeying god. (not hard to belive)

it took them only a while to populate the world, but people confuse the world for what it is today. the population today would be much much much higher of what it would of been back then.
you may ask, how could 2 people populate a whole world? well if we "evolved" there had to be the first humans aswell and they populated the world too.

now your thinking they populated the world in 6000 years, well look at us now in only a few years we have gone up 4-5billion people, more than enough to populate the world.

this thread is not about religion but about how we got here.

[Vipershark]

Evolution makes the most sense. Here's what I think.

The only thing that doesn't make sense about evolution is that in the big bang theory, there were gases and stuff floating around in space, which caused the universe to form. Where id these gases come from? There couldn't have just been nothingness and gases would just suddenly appear, could it? Something would have had to create these gases. That leads back to creation. The problem with that is, if there is some kind of higher power, where did it come from? It couldn't just appear either! That leads back to evolution, but something would have had to create the higher power..... creation again. But where did the creator of the creator come from? It goes on and on forever.

[~Felly~]

Creationist... I can't really explain why, but just go with Forte's post because it's technically what I could say in longer and more explained terms.

[Nova]

Creavolutionist. I dont believe that adam and eve were real. The bible in that part stated that people lived about 700 years which i think is exxagerated by the people who wrote the bible. I think that god put animals on this planet and put another animal in particular. Now this is where i believe in evolution. This animal was basically a "seed" In time it eeolved and evolevd until it finally became what we are today. But i think that this seed is only about half way grown and we still have alot to evolve. Thats just my opinion

[Invader_gir]

[QUOTE=Vipershark]Evolution makes the most sense. Here's what I think.

The only thing that doesn't make sense about evolution is that in the big bang theory, there were gases and stuff floating around in space, which caused the universe to form. Where id these gases come from? There couldn't have just been nothingness and gases would just suddenly appear, could it? Something would have had to create these gases. That leads back to creation. The problem with that is, if there is some kind of higher power, where did it come from? It couldn't just appear either! That leads back to evolution, but something would have had to create the higher power..... creation again. But where did the creator of the creator come from? It goes on and on forever.[/QUOTE]
matter vs anti matter

matter and anti matter cant mix.. they collide and BO-fυckin'-OM! a rather large bang..

i shall explain more on the big bang when it doesnt hurt so much to type.. but rest assure that i have learnt =P

[Vipershark]

Where would the matter and antimatter come from???

And another reason creation doesn't make sense: No dinosaurs. We've found their bones, but how come there is no record of them in creation?

[Laguna Loire]

[QUOTE=Vipershark]And another reason creation doesn't make sense: No dinosaurs. We've found their bones, but how come there is no record of them in creation?[/QUOTE]

Exactly. This is why I dislike the concept of creationism.

If you are a creationist, you must ignore all scientific, rational, and logical evidence of the first beings on this planet and how it was created.

My chemistry teacher once told me a true story about a creationist he knew in university. He said "How can you believe in creationism when we've found dinosaur fossils which prove their existance?" The creationist said "The fossils were planted there by god to test our faith."

For god's sake, if anyone agrees with the creationist's theory, I will impale you onto my bedroom wall, because that is one of the stupidest theorys I've ever heard.

If you haven't already gathered, I'm an evolutionist.

[~Felly~]

I think we kinda figured that out, LS... And after rereading the d*mn post... I misread somethings, which now changes my opinion. I am now an evolutionist. Why? Well, Adam and Eve were kicked outta the garden place because they took fruit off of the great tree which may or may not exist. The question is, how could they have kids if they didn't know about reproduction? Now dinosaurs were real because of fossils that prove their exsistance.

I'll add more when it hurts less to type with my left hand..

[Invader_gir]

dont forget that adam and eve were said to only have three sons =]

[Forte.Exe]

well if we did find dinosaurs, the creation theory is only about humans forget the rest of the animals, dinosaurs evolved from early amphibious things.
you dont need to know about reproduction to reproduce.

[~Felly~]

Actually, yes you do because you won't know how to do certain things to reproduce and have kids... Something could go wrong, and the kid/kids would die.

[Forte.Exe]

something [COLOR=Red]could[/COLOR] go wrong but it didnt, it went right

[Invader_gir]

no it didnt.. if there was enough inbreading at the beginning of homosepiens or however thats spelled, we could have had neat bat-like wings!

[[N]eto]

Well, if they ate the fruit of knowledge, don't you think Adam and Eve would know about reproduction?

Nevertheless, I'm neither a creationist or evolutionist. I understand we have evolved, but that doesn't make me an evolutionist.

[Brown Bear]

First of all, back in the time of Noahs Ark, there weren't as many animals as there are now. According to what people say about evolution, animals can evolve to create completely different species, and back in that time, all thre needed to be is the basic animals to create their huge amount of relatives on the family tree. This explains why the boat probably wasn't so heavy it would sink.

Now about building Noah's Ark, since it didn't have to be so extremely huge (It is written: "Make it 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high" [SIZE=1]Genesis 6:15[/SIZE]), It would take 100 years tops to create the ark, and Noah lived to be 950 years old, for people lived longer back then.

They didn't catch the animals either; God commanded the animals to go to him, and even if he did, it wouldn't have taken over 10 years to do this.
To keep the boat afloat, it was made of resinous wood, which was firmly sealed with tar inside and out to keep out the water; for it is written: "Make a boat from resinous wood and seal it with tar, inside and out..." [SIZE=1]Genesis 6:14[/SIZE]. It is also written: "Construct an opening all the way around the boat, 18 inches from the roof..." [SIZE=1]Genesis 6:16[/SIZE]. So there was a large window for air.

Also, there wasn't just two people populating the earth, God only talks about Adam and Eve at first in the Bible and says he placed them in the Garden of Eden, never anything about creating or not creating others later in different places.

This is why I beleive in creation, rather than evolution, and I don't see how we could have possibly come from monkeys, because we are only 99% alike, the other 1% is what makes the HUGE difference.